Little help over DAC hosting servers, please

[armistice]

HI,

I would appreciate some advice regarding dedicated servers to be used for DAC hosting/drop catching. I'm not looking for a hosted DAC service because I have extensive experience running my own server and have developed my own software for interfacing with nominet.

I'm looking for a cheap dedicated server/possibly Virtual (I have other service elsewhere so don't need huge specs or massive data transfer), its the connectivity i.e. position/peering relative to nominet that I am most interested in.

I have a list of a few companies from my own research, but would appreciate any advice you'd be willing to share either on this thread or via PM.

Many thanks
Jon

 

[grantw]

Not being funny but why would any dropcatcher in their right mind give out that sort of advice to a potential competitor?

Grant

 

[armistice]

Not being funny but why would any dropcatcher in their right mind give out that sort of advice to a potential competitor?

Grant

Grant, I'm not asking you to give me your 'secrets' here, or your code/system etc. Just asking regarding general ISP advice.
'Not being funny but', you must be very insecure about the quality of your drop catching set-up if your worried a discussion about server hosting companies is going to affect your chances.

 

[retired_member21]

I have extensive experience running my own server and have developed my own software for interfacing with nominet.

.....
its the connectivity i.e. position/peering relative to nominet that I am most interested in....

This doesn't sound like 'general' advice, sounds quite specific to catching which is a trade secret by the looks of it!

 

[grantw]

Going by 'its the connectivity i.e. position/peering relative to nominet that I am most interested in' you appear to be asking for people to recommend hosts that are closest to Nominets servers rather than 'general ISP advice'

'Not being funny but', you must be very insecure about the quality of your drop catching set-up if your worried a discussion about server hosting companies is going to affect your chances.

I'm not insecure at all. If you're convinced by your dropcatching abilities and believe that hosting doesn't affect your chances I recommend you go with the cheapest dedicated server you can find, probably based in the USA.

Grant

 

[dtm]

Going by 'its the connectivity i.e. position/peering relative to nominet that I am most interested in' you appear to be asking for people to recommend hosts that are closest to Nominets servers rather than 'general ISP advice'



I'm not insecure at all. If you're convinced by your dropcatching abilities and believe that hosting doesn't affect your chances I recommend you go with the cheapest dedicated server you can find, probably based in the USA.

Grant

How about Dedicated Servers by JPstream Internet Services in Japan not bad 9800 Yen - £62?

 

[armistice]

This doesn't sound like 'general' advice, sounds quite specific to catching which is a trade secret by the looks of it!

If it is a trade secret, it not being very well kept. I gained that information reading this forum!

Its not rocket science to work out that a shorter hop to the dac is going to reduce the time to make a query and get a response, its also easy to deduce where the main players servers are, using standard tools traceroute, ripe lookup, etc. Its easy to find out nominets peering arrangements. A number of ISP advertise on their websites that they are hosting the servers for drop catchers due to their 2ms pings.

I've done the work, just looking to start a conversation about peoples findings. Sorry to have asked.

 

[rob]

Can you post your shortlist so far, then perhaps people can comment on that?

 

[dtm]

If it is a trade secret, it not being very well kept. I gained that information reading this forum!

Its not rocket science to work out that a shorter hop to the dac is going to reduce the time to make a query and get a response, its also easy to deduce where the main players servers are, using standard tools traceroute, ripe lookup, etc. Its easy to find out nominets peering arrangements. A number of ISP advertise on their websites that they are hosting the servers for drop catchers due to their 2ms pings.

I've done the work, just looking to start a conversation about peoples findings. Sorry to have asked.

How do you know that the websites of drop catchers aren't hosted on alternative public facing web servers?

 

[armistice]

How do you know that the websites of drop catchers aren't hosted on alternative public facing web servers?

Some do, by the way do you know your sites arn't working right now

 

[dtm]

Some do, by the way do you know your sites arn't working right now

I do Yeah I got an email from Rapidswitch saying one of their nodes is down

 

[Paullas]

Can you post your shortlist so far, then perhaps people can comment on that?

this info would also be interesting for the other members...

 

[stender]

if you go on webhosting talk forum and ask you'll get hosts giving you their latency. if you want to pm your shortlist I can tell you if I know any.

 

[Skinner]

I love these threads

Before I even looked at hosting, I'd test my script on middle of the road names, see if I can hook them.

Wouldn't you book some low end random names on dropsys/caught and see if you can beat them in a majoroity way ? Once i had a majority win, then I'd be concerned with hosting