DRS consultation event

[Beasty]

Beasty,

Is there any point in going then? If the panel is going to be "invited" by Nominet i.e. most likely ***** Taylor + a few experts + maybe the odd PAB member (that agrees with Nominet and not elected) you already know what they will say. Just like at the EGM a question will be met with a default reply and you won't be able to return the reply.

With the UK domain conference Domain Channel a few days before the event i'm seriously considering just going to that instead (saves me going to London twice!). Lesley Cowley will be speaking at the conference and i'm sure we can ask her questions direct. Also maybe we should print out the DRS consultation surveys and hand them out to domainers at the event to fill in? Highlighting the changes that would effect them e.g. loser pays.

You also have to remember ***** Taylor, Edward Phillips, Eric Ramage wrote the DRS in the first place. They are highly unlikely to allow comments to be made about it being replaced with WIPO Dispute Policies and Procedural Rules for ccTLDs ?

Also the DRS is being exported overseas and is seen as a success by them:

http://www.nominet.org.uk/digitalAssets/9906_PAB_Paper_-_DRS_Update_May_2006.pdf



I feel whether we like it or not the DRS consulation is just the white paper waiting to be rubber stamped. All we can do is point out the things wrong with it rather than the DRS as a whole?

http://www.nominet.org.uk/digitalAssets/10565_061115_DRS_Consult_-_final.pdf

Andrew

I understand where you are coming from Andrew. However - as I said to Ed - I am inclined to give it as good a shot as I can, encourage as many responses as possible and then see what happens. I am prepared to accept in good faith the opportunity of the consultation.

If there is strong respnse that then gets ignored - then that is a different matter. But I think to pre-judge it will result in a self-fulfilling prophecy and years more hand wringing by those whose business interests are directly affected.

 

[Whois-Search]

I think we could get more responses from the Domain Channel event than at the Nominet DRS event. However maybe we should still go to the DRS event to make our voices heard and counted.

Also the UK domain conference needs a UK lawyer to be a speaker:

Domain Channel - Speakers

Paul Keating of Renova Ltd is a UDRP man?

Maybe they would allow you to do your DRS presentation? Sponsored by your firm.

 

[sneezycheese]

I understand where you are coming from Andrew. However - as I said to Ed - I am inclined to give it as good a shot as I can, encourage as many responses as possible and then see what happens. I am prepared to accept in good faith the opportunity of the consultation.

If there is strong respnse that then gets ignored - then that is a different matter. But I think to pre-judge it will result in a self-fulfilling prophecy and years more hand wringing by those whose business interests are directly affected.

...Agreed 100%!!!

One interesting point from the consultation documentation...

How to respond to this consultation
Anyone can respond to this consultation. Please either respond to the online survey; attend the outreach events and give your feedback; or email your answers to the questions presented in this document to [email protected]. We look forward to receiving your comments.
All responses will be published on our web site however we reserve the right to remove any materials that in our reasonable opinion are defamatory, offensive or unintelligible.

...So is this meeting classed as an "outreach event"??? - If so, then it must be worth attending!!!

Happy New Year!!! :mrgreen:

Regards,

Sneezy.

 

[Whois-Search]

I presume the DRS consulation is on a PDP long track:

PDP long track

The PAB has already had its subcommittee meeting and their findings/response will be known soon?

The DRS event on the 6th Feb will be for Key Stakeholders? I'm not sure who is going to be attending or represented. How can domainers be represented for example? Even some registrars have PPC parking pages.

The public consultation ends on 17th Feb (after 3 months).

So you have until then to influence the boards decision?

How many responses will it take to do that ? 10 ? 100 ? 1000 ?

 

[gordon]

I presume the DRS consulation is on a PDP long track:

Yes, that is correct.

The PAB has already had its subcommittee meeting and their findings/response will be known soon?

The sub-com report goes to the January PAB meeting and the January PAB meeting will have to accept/ammend/etc as appropriate. (It is possible, though less likely, that this could happen post-PAB meeting - it depends how the debate in the meeting goes with regards to the sub-com report.)

So you have until then to influence the boards decision?
How many responses will it take to do that ? 10 ? 100 ? 1000 ?

The number is not as important as the quality. Obviously the more quality responses explaining views and showing reasoning the better for everyone! It's always good to recognise that there is not only one answer to a problem and explain why you believe your answer is less problematic, on balance, for everyone than all the other answers. (It also helps if you have actually found the golden solution that works for everyone. )

Gordon

 

[olebean]

The number is not as important as the quality. Obviously the more quality responses explaining views and showing reasoning the better for everyone! It's always good to recognise that there is not only one answer to a problem and explain why you believe your answer is less problematic, on balance, for everyone than all the other answers. (It also helps if you have actually found the golden solution that works for everyone. )

Gordon

Gordan

Can you tell us how quality is being measured?


OB

 

[gordon]

Gordan

Can you tell us how quality is being measured?

OB,
I wasn't suggesting anyone was saying "this is a quality response" so listen to it more than that one... I was merely meaning that something that is understandable and reasoned through will obviously help people understand better. The better Nominet can understand what your concerns are the more likely they can address the concerns.

For example if someone were to submit a response saying "Do X" it is more difficult to comprehend why we should give weight to that proposal than one that says "Do Y because of Z and Z is good for everyone because...".

Gordon

 

[Whois-Search]

Nominet seeks IT manager feedback - Computing

"IT managers are tasked with registering and maintaining a company's online presence – and can be held responsible if there is a problem," explained Nominet chief executive Lesley Cowley. "Approximately one in 1,600 .uk domain names is disputed, so it is important that the (DRS) remains quick, simple, fair and approachable for all."

 

[Paullas]

Nominet seeks IT manager feedback - Computing

well ive spoken to a few IT managers in the past and they have never heard of nominets DRS? so that should be interesting.

 

[sneezycheese]

The latest from Nominet on the event:

Latest News

Regards,

Sneezy.

 

[Whois-Search]

We have Sarah Montague of BBC's Today, Newsnight and HARDtalk as our Panel Moderator. Sarah will be joined by representatives from the IP community, the domainer community, the DRS experts and a small business representative who has been through the DRS system recently. We hope this will make for an interesting panel, covering a variety of expertise and opinions.

Not sure what Sarah Montague has to do with the DRS (how much they paying her?) but she should make a good referee anyway

IP community = Eric Ramage, Willoughby and co ?

Domainer Community = now this will be an interesting one Highly unlikey to be one of us here will it lol Likely to be someone from Sedo ? Namedrive ? They might even push the boat out and get a Dropcatcher!

DRS experts = Tony better turn up

Small Businesses = FineCheeses.co.uk Bounce.co.uk Mercer.co.uk Take your pick Decisions - 4001 to 5000

 

[grandin]

I have booked

I personally did not think of going until i read experts and press

It would be valuable but really should be sold out very quickly

Lee