Dropcatcher.co.uk

[stellar73]

As I understand it a lot of tagholders are using the script from one person on the agreement that they immediately auction the domain on his site for half the selling price.

********** I presume, interesting, didn't realise it was that regimented!

At least while there's any public catchers left there's still small hope for us plebs getting a decent name for less than £50 (or at least fractionally more chance than winning the lottery I suppose)

Oh well I will keep trying!

 

[RobM]

Don't quote me verbatim on that - I don't know beyond what's written on their website how far information goes. There is a section (open to all sellers) for Advance Bids on Deleting Domains. There's never very many in there though. I do know though that a lot of domains not listed on there are caught by one of many and auctioned off. Whether they are being told what to backorder or not is really just my assumption - not fact. In no way am I denigrating the process, I see it as an inevitable progression of the backordering system. Nominet are supposedly strict on tag collusions so I find it unlikely that people are being openly told what to chase - just a possibility.

 

[RobM]

I realised after I posted that comment that it sounded accusing. That was poor wording by me. There is no evidence of that. To me the issue has always been about multiple tag holders using the same script and interface and, in essence, their allowance from which one party will benefit from half the sale price (if the domain sells).

 

[RobM]

As I said there is no proof and nominet assure us they are very hot on anti-avoidance. Personally I would like to see the rules discarded.

 

[RobM]

I don't believe the rules are, or have ever been, enforced for everyone. You remember the days of obvious multi-tag holders in the automaton-registering era? Emails to nominet were always met with assurances that it wasn't going on. However there is no proof so might as well discard the pretense. Obviously that would hit some people's pockets. Anyway opinion is irrelevant

 

[stellar73]

Don't quote me verbatim on that - I don't know beyond what's written on their website how far information goes.

Sorry, didn't realise it was a contentious issue (have removed the site name from my post)

Sounds like they're being very enterprising anyway!

 

[RobM]

It's tricky for nominet. If they remove the anti-advoidance policy many people, including myself, would openly purchase tens if not hundreds of tags and domain-catching would go to the rich. They have always claimed a 'first come first served' policy. Ironically though they now favour the people with the fastest scripts and servers - effectively giving some tagholders NO chance of ever catching a domain. As has already been said the policy was put in place before DAC and EPP but the basic premise still remains the same minus the technical issues. I don't see how the policy is any easier to enforce since the changes and therefore nominet stick with it so as to effectively wash their hands of the issue. The system will never be 'fair' and I don't see how it ever could be - therefore I wouldn't bother pretending it is and just remove the bureaucracy and costs associated with attempting to police it. Of course that would put some people at nominet out of jobs.....

 

[RobM]

I haven't signed up for additional memberships because I have too many domains to lose if my tag ever got revoked. Also, being in Malta, with a population of only 400,000 it would be very easy to spot. I'm sure it goes on in larger countries.

 

[RobM]

There are very simple ways to find out if people are multitagging as we know from the past. If tagholders can work it out I'm sure nominet can if they want. I just feel it's better not to piss them off. I know you're playing devils advocate here but I'm not getting drawn further into this. This dropcatcher original thread has been dragged way off topic as it is.

 

[SF]

Hey invincible, did you get my email I sent about a name you own? I never even got a reply? if it was Chris Holland he would always have the decency to reply!!

 

[SF]

Oh did you thanks I heard nothing back, my client has offered 3k and i could pos get more from him.

Thanks

 

[Ashton]

Interesting discussion, If I was a drop catcher I could just get my friends to register with nominet and use their registration details with my script. This wouldn't be against nominet would it?

 

[tifosi]

Interesting discussion, If I was a drop catcher I could just get my friends to register with nominet and use their registration details with my script. This wouldn't be against nominet would it?

Yes it would. 'Connected Persons'. Under such circumstances the dac quotas would be pooled into a single 432k quota.

It's my argument against the DomainLore model. A very fine line and a big grey area.

 

[Ashton]

Yes it would. 'Connected Persons'. Under such circumstances the dac quotas would be pooled into a single 432k quota.

It's my argument against the DomainLore model. A very fine line and a big grey area.

Ah thanks, I wasn't sure on the clarification on it. DomainLore catchers are clearly connected at least through the business aspect?

I doubt that people aren't doing this or have tried this. On a purely theoretical note - I don't even have a tag: I have connections across the globe who have no obvious connection to me that could increase my dac quota. Obviously this would only be worth it if you had a decent script and felt competitive...