Deleting domains

[retired_member16]

Yup - thus why I am saying surrendering not deleting, as I cannot see people going through the hassle of surrendering a name that does not perform well, they will just hang on to it.

Less domains available = higher prices for resellers.

 

[Existent]

Nominet might like to build in a way for tag holders to make test registrations which can be deleted without charge via the automaton.

Use the automaton-test-xxx.co.uk dummy registration.

 

[retired_member6]

I know what the issue is My point is that after paying the fiver people will not be surrendering the name.

Previously one of the benefits of deletion was that at least the name would not be taken out of circulation, that benefit has gone.

In theory that domain will not be registered now due to costs, however if the name has to make £2-3 a year to cover costs I cannot see it hitting bulk 'tasters' , just they will have slightly higher costs.

Winners : Nominet - they get more £
Losers : Potential registrants who have less chance to get the name.

It sounds good enough to me, keep the domain if you want it, if you don't, don't reg it. It seems to be working already, however 5% is still a lot depending on how many you catch, just factor it into your P&L.

 

[rob]

Less domains available = higher prices for resellers.

There was me thinking the clamour for the new rules was purely altruistic

 

[scooter]

I think this is great news, I just hope that it is enforced.

For dropcatchers its simple, if you dont want the name, dont attempt to catch it.

If you do catch it, I dont care if it doesnt get 1 visitor in 2 years, tough, pay up. :mrgreen:

I'm with you firestars. This is good news for the whole community at large.

"try before you buy" is coming to an end. The only complainers will be TAG holders with access to DAC that are throwing a large % of names back as the ppc doesn't stack up.


I sincerely don't think there will be less names available, it will be the opposite. Some TAG holders are regging 20+ names a day and throwing almost 30% of them back at the end of the month. This means they will be getting billed for £1000+ a month more than they are at present.


I guess that will be the end of:
123-search-engine-optimization.co.uk and a myriad of others.

Just like the baggy minnows here, it will be time to put your money where your script is

Hats off to Nominet. Thank you.

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[Jay Daley]

The nom-anounce message mentions that there has been no limit on the number of deletions that could be made. I was always under the impression, from reading previous information on Nominet's web site, that the specified limit was 10% of registrations made that month. Is it that this limit was never enforced?

Not that I'm aware of, though that's not to say you're wrong. Can you point me at where you saw this, either on an archive or the old URL?

 

[Jay Daley]

It sounds good enough to me, keep the domain if you want it, if you don't, don't reg it. It seems to be working already, however 5% is still a lot depending on how many you catch, just factor it into your P&L.

5% is not the limit and I'm not sure the web pages can make this any clearer. The limit on deletion before invoice for anything other than a genuine mistake is zero, yes zero. Any deletions that we believe are for domain tasting will be considered for further action.

5% is where the automated block kicks in.

 

[retired_member16]

Zero?


www.deleting.co.uk/caught

That should be enough to remove the tags of the guilty parties. Please let us know how you get on.

 

[Jay Daley]

Zero?


www.deleting.co.uk/caught

That should be enough to remove the tags of the guilty parties. Please let us know how you get on.

It is effective from the 8th of August, as the announcement says. Don't worry, we get the stats.

 

[retired_member11]

So how do you determine that a deletion was for ppc reasons?

 

[Jay Daley]

So how do you determine that a deletion was for ppc reasons?

On a case by case basis. But it is unlikely that someone will make lots of mistakes every month.

 

[retired_member11]

Yes,....a case by case basis, but the second clause of your sentence suggests that detection is only possible if a consistent pattern of deletions is detected, which implies that an isolated deletion now and then is undetectable (not technically undetectable, but undetectable when set against your method of scrutiny).

I've never deleted a name, ever. If I delete one later today for ppc reasons how can you say it was for that reason? Where is your evidence? Or, is this to be a Diplock system of justice?

 

[FC Domains]

Let's see if I can ask this very simply.

You are saying that if I delete more than 5 (or 5%) of domains in a month then I will be charged for them regardless.
That sounds fair.

However, I am then not allowed to delete these names. Why not? I'll have to pay for them, so what is the difference to Nominet?

Why do Nominet want to make more work for themselves?
Why do they want to send in the heavies if you delete paid for (will have to pay for) domains?

 

[Jay Daley]

Let's see if I can ask this very simply.

You are saying that if I delete more than 5 (or 5%) of domains in a month then I will be charged for them regardless.
That sounds fair.

However, I am then not allowed to delete these names. Why not? I'll have to pay for them, so what is the difference to Nominet?

Because you are the tag holder, and from payment onwards we only take the registrants word that they want it cancelled, not the tag holder.

 

[retired_member11]

Let's see if I can ask this very simply.

You are saying that if I delete more than 5 (or 5%) of domains in a month then I will be charged for them regardless.
That sounds fair.

However, I am then not allowed to delete these names. Why not? I'll have to pay for them, so what is the difference to Nominet?

Why do Nominet want to make more work for themselves?
Why do they want to send in the heavies if you delete paid for (will have to pay for) domains?

Why would you want to delete a domain you have paid for? Just let it lapse in two years time.

 

[paul]

I think what Colin is asking is, if you want to delete say 8 domains before the 6th of the following month and you are not buying them in the first place for domain tasting purposes, why can he not delete all 8 and just get charged for any number over the limit ie. 3

 

[Jay Daley]

I think what Colin is asking is, if you want to delete say 8 domains before the 6th of the following month and you are not buying them in the first place for domain tasting purposes, why can he not delete all 8 and just get charged for any number over the limit ie. 3

I'm not sure he was, but to answer your point...

If you need to delete more than that limit, because of a genuine mistake, then please contact us to discuss it. We are not going to be inflexible on this. The web page says the same thing.

 

[FC Domains]

Why should it matter why I registered them, so long as I pay for them?

Often I think better of a domain and delete it, having already been invoiced.
It saves having to remember not to renew it and I don't get all the emails, or pro-froma invoices.

 

[SF]

Jay, Dont really agree with this new rule.

In the future - Will you be telling us what names to register as well :???:

Whats the big deal with tasting a domain name?, it is"first come first serve basis" isnt it?

 

[Jay Daley]

Whats the big deal with tasting a domain name?, it is"first come first serve basis" isnt it?

Because you can use a lot of our system resources up without paying for it.