Blackpool.com / Blackpool.co.uk / Blackpool.uk

[Edwin]

Nothing to see here.

 

[Edwin]

Nothing to see here.

 

[Admin]

Moved

 

[Edwin]

Nothing to see here.

 

[Edwin]

Nothing to see here.

 

[Edwin]

Nothing to see here.

 

[RobM]

VAT is a killer

 

[RobM]

But if you're not vat registered (and a lot of people aren't) that's 20% on top. It's better to advertise your price including vat in my opinion. That way no surprises to people who might not realise quite how much that is on top for them or a feeling of 'I'm getting a discount' for those who can claim it back. Also why asking the same price for the com as the co.uk? That makes me think (which I'm sure wasn't your intention) that you are overpricing the UK rather than underpricing the .com. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying your prices are not accurate I'm just answering your question about why there may be little interest.

 

[JMI]

Nice domains - a very popular tourist destination.

Theres no way I'd buy these without the set. We might be pro .co.uk/ here but to invest heavily in the .co.uk whilst not owning the .com would be dangerous - the .com is still one hell of a domain.

I think you might get more interest if they were priced as a set, no VAT (or included in price), obviously you want to get the end sale price x3 like any seller but on this type of domain it could back fire.

 

[martin-s]

The .com is worth more than £35k on its own. The .uk is worth peanuts and has to be paired with the .co.uk - probably at £10k tops.

I'd have gone after one big deal on the .com if it were me.

 

[twostepsbehind]

https://www.insidermedia.com/insider/northwest/game-changing-300m-blackpool-investment-unveiled

Blackpool.uk is the best one here imo

All the top BP websites for tourism are .com though and if one wants to get some ad revenue from big names the .com may be a stronger selling point

 

[JMI]

Don't underestimate the clout of a good {geo}.com

 

[WalkinDude]

It amazes Blackpool itself haven't been beating down your door for these domains. I dunno what the odds of getting all three are for a GEO nowadays but that's it right there - The Big Three. .com, .co.uk, .uk... though I wouldn't have said no to a .org squeezed alongside.

If you got the dosh for one you'd simply have to find the dosh for the other 2 cos chances like this don't grow on trees. And what I like is Blackpool isn't like say Manchester which is a robust metropolitan area far too big for this sort of thing to be a priority in manner London as a city probably couldn't care less who owns London.com. Blackpool in contrast is screaming out for a platform of itself to showcase the Tourism, Investment, Property options as the it moves forward into the digital era.

You'd think [or maybe this is just how I think], someone in the Town Hall would say we'll buy this and put it to it's proper use. Set it up for the young creatives to bring energy and life to it; something more than the usual 'portal' type website and away we go. Sexy Modern Blackpool, vibrant, full of opportunity etc. Wasn't so long ago I noticed entire hotels up for sale for sort of money you'd struggle to get a bathroom for in London. It's impossible for me to see how they could lose. Winner for all who'd participate. Evolution is being thrust upon us and there's no escaping it and these domains carve a path through it for a place like Blackpool as I've read various articles on the economic challenges.

You go .co.uk for the formal stuff, hand the dotcom over to the 'young creatives' as their 'exciting space' [arts, tech, and all the rest of it], and hold the .uk in reserve to cover the backdoor. It's a digital unifying force and identity for an entire community, proud one too.

I'd spend a weekend polishing off the proposal, get it to over them, 100k lets spit on our hands and get this over with, and if they say no their loss, and back to 35k or whatever it is all in for us lot. What it's worth to them, and what it's worth to a domainer are two completely different valuations imho. It matters not whether they realise it or not, I've known top official types who don't even know what whatsapps for let alone a domain name, but there is no escaping they will need to know and the argument is strong.

Over time the odds of Blackpool [it's establishment], coming to realise the near infinite opportunity as a geo brand this offers will improve as the technology is on the way for them to do amazing things with it. The technology is bringing forth answers like what do you when as a community your future has to work differently to your past. Once you know the answer to those questions you need a platform to showcase those answers.

 

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It amazes Blackpool itself haven't been beating down your door for these domains. I dunno what the odds of getting all three are for a GEO nowadays but that's it right there - The Big Three. .com, .co.uk, .uk... though I wouldn't have said no to a .org squeezed alongside.

If you got the dosh for one you'd simply have to find the dosh for the other 2 cos chances like this don't grow on trees. And what I like is Blackpool isn't like say Manchester which is a robust metropolitan area far too big for this sort of thing to be a priority in manner London as a city probably couldn't care less who owns London.com. Blackpool in contrast is screaming out for a platform of itself to showcase the Tourism, Investment, Property options as the it moves forward into the digital era.

You'd think [or maybe this is just how I think], someone in the Town Hall would say we'll buy this and put it to it's proper use. Set it up for the young creatives to bring energy and life to it; something more than the usual 'portal' type website and away we go. Sexy Modern Blackpool, vibrant, full of opportunity etc. Wasn't so long ago I noticed entire hotels up for sale for sort of money you'd struggle to get a bathroom for in London. It's impossible for me to see how they could lose. Winner for all who'd participate. Evolution is being thrust upon us and there's no escaping it and these domains carve a path through it for a place like Blackpool as I've read various articles on the economic challenges.

You go .co.uk for the formal stuff, hand the dotcom over to the 'young creatives' as their 'exciting space' [arts, tech, and all the rest of it], and hold the .uk in reserve to cover the backdoor. It's a digital unifying force and identity for an entire community, proud one too.

I'd spend a weekend polishing off the proposal, get it to over them, 100k lets spit on our hands and get this over with, and if they say no their loss, and back to 35k or whatever it is all in for us lot. What it's worth to them, and what it's worth to a domainer are two completely different valuations imho. It matters not whether they realise it or not, I've known top official types who don't even know what whatsapps for let alone a domain name, but there is no escaping they will need to know and the argument is strong.

Over time the odds of Blackpool [it's establishment], coming to realise the near infinite opportunity as a geo brand this offers will improve as the technology is on the way for them to do amazing things with it. The technology is bringing forth answers like what do you when as a community your future has to work differently to your past. Once you know the answer to those questions you need a platform to showcase those answers.

You'll never catch up with https://www.visitblackpool.com

 

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You'll never catch up with https://www.visitblackpool.com

It amazes Blackpool itself haven't been beating down your door for these domains. I dunno what the odds of getting all three are for a GEO nowadays but that's it right there - The Big Three. .com, .co.uk, .uk... though I wouldn't have said no to a .org squeezed alongside.

If you got the dosh for one you'd simply have to find the dosh for the other 2 cos chances like this don't grow on trees. And what I like is Blackpool isn't like say Manchester which is a robust metropolitan area far too big for this sort of thing to be a priority in manner London as a city probably couldn't care less who owns London.com. Blackpool in contrast is screaming out for a platform of itself to showcase the Tourism, Investment, Property options as the it moves forward into the digital era.

You'd think [or maybe this is just how I think], someone in the Town Hall would say we'll buy this and put it to it's proper use. Set it up for the young creatives to bring energy and life to it; something more than the usual 'portal' type website and away we go. Sexy Modern Blackpool, vibrant, full of opportunity etc. Wasn't so long ago I noticed entire hotels up for sale for sort of money you'd struggle to get a bathroom for in London. It's impossible for me to see how they could lose. Winner for all who'd participate. Evolution is being thrust upon us and there's no escaping it and these domains carve a path through it for a place like Blackpool as I've read various articles on the economic challenges.

You go .co.uk for the formal stuff, hand the dotcom over to the 'young creatives' as their 'exciting space' [arts, tech, and all the rest of it], and hold the .uk in reserve to cover the backdoor. It's a digital unifying force and identity for an entire community, proud one too.

I'd spend a weekend polishing off the proposal, get it to over them, 100k lets spit on our hands and get this over with, and if they say no their loss, and back to 35k or whatever it is all in for us lot. What it's worth to them, and what it's worth to a domainer are two completely different valuations imho. It matters not whether they realise it or not, I've known top official types who don't even know what whatsapps for let alone a domain name, but there is no escaping they will need to know and the argument is strong.

Over time the odds of Blackpool [it's establishment], coming to realise the near infinite opportunity as a geo brand this offers will improve as the technology is on the way for them to do amazing things with it. The technology is bringing forth answers like what do you when as a community your future has to work differently to your past. Once you know the answer to those questions you need a platform to showcase those answers.

I worked on a project with isleofwight,com, similar situation as you explain above, the council told us to f off and bought visitisleofwight, that was a few years back, funny enough, the price the owner asked was £100Gs, since then isleofwight,com went into ruin, you can't compete because of the council links, you'll never get top position.

 

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[WalkinDude]

While that's a great motivational post, it lacks understanding of the geo domain industry and how it works.

For Blackpool, the town hall/tourism section of the council already own the domain and website of the #1 ranking website for Blackpool. They have no reason to change domains.

No government/council committee would agree to paying 100k for a domain when they already have a domain/website that dominates the main and longtail keywords.

All that can be true without invalidating my points. Blackpool.com is the 'daddy' along with 'Blackpool.co.uk'. I'd rather own Stilleto.com than own the most popular subsection of some site for that stilettos are one of the millions of products it sells - that's the lets just assume things will never change approach which flies in the face of actual reality because things will always change.

These domains names are valuable because they are more future proof than any currently known alternative and that's how a place like Blackpool should be thinking though I accept it's highly unlikely that is how they think. The most solid fact is Blackpool won't be changing it's name that of 'Blackpool' rest I wouldn't pin my hopes on.

Folks basically spouting the the technical minefield global 'search engines' have constructed solely for their own enrichment and that of the same monolithic partner websites that appear at the top of every single search regardless of what you are searching for, demonstrates little has been learned from the last time they woke up and decided to change their algorithms causing billions of hours and investment of work by the little man to become worthless overnight.

Years spent spying on what we were all up to and in one clean sweep it became theirs and yet you got domainers singing their PRAISES for it. Using tech to make deep linking bigger than domains themselves, thus ensuring monolithic websites can literally hoover up entire spheres in perpetuity, lets all clap our hands shall we. It's as big a transfer of wealth up the pyramid as what happened in 2008, arguably bigger, and it will be looked into one day in a manner no different to similar scandals at the top and corresponding lawsuits will one day be filed especially if Elizabeth Warren takes the Presidency or someone likeminded. I'm part of the Resistance.

 

[JMI]

We do we think about councils having a monopoly and using tax payers money to compete against the private sector, when there are plenty of tourism sites out there (sorry a bit off topic)

 

[domainscot]

Interesting

 

[pugyrob]

feel a bit bad for the seller that this thread is becoming an appraisal thread when he is trying to make sales? or am i missing something