Robin Hood

[keys]

I’m looking at the feasibility of some dropcatchers working together to achieve greater success.

I would like to hear from any Tagholders with a proven system. Please PM contact email and your Tag name if you are interested.

 

[mreeves]

How exactly would such a scheme work without infringing Nominet's policies?

 

[shaunjock]

I have friartuck.co.uk - I'll be your fat friend who just comes along for the ride and then assists in consuming your spoils

 

[keys]

How exactly would such a scheme work without infringing Nominet's policies?

This post is quite open, but to a restricted audience after recent events.

I expect Nominet will be aware of it in due course, and I have no intention of infringing their policies.

However, any discussion of the matter will be private.

 

[retired_member27]

Also, if a really good domain was caught how would it be shared betwwen the tagholders without arguing?

 

[Lucky Luke]

Eeny meeny miny mo...

 

[Lucky Luke]

On a more serious note, you could form a joint venture - either a partnership or even a limited company - though the redtape does weigh heavy. Get a separate TAG.

Formalise things, plan for a sale, disposal or break up at some point down the road.

What you could do is start this JV, aim to catch, ensure no one breaks ranks by using the group's knowledge to grab names for themselves (how?), auction off any good names caught, share proceeds, dissolve when all good names have virtually dried up.

I think keeping everyone together may be tricky. Also, you restrict how many lookups (or whatever) you can do.

 

[keys]

Thanks for the PM's I will reply shortly.

This is my last post on Acorn, new pastures beckon.

I will make a final check for PM's on 10 January.

 

[keys]

One way or another the reign of King Andrew may soon be over.

 

[rob]

This is my last post on Acorn

day after...

One way or another the reign of King Andrew may soon be over.

3 Threads basically saying Tag Names and co cheat, out of interest to which Tag is the crown going?!

 

[grantw]

This is all getting very boring!

Can I suggest that everyone complaining about people cheating/conspiracy theories etc. dedicate there time to something more constructive ie. working on your catching scripts - TAGNAMES currently get the most domains because their system works better than everyone elses. If you're not catching any domains then you need to be looking at your script and the surrounding factors to work out why, then change it!

Simple As.

A few months ago Chris Fox was cleaning up, tagnames have obviously made some changes since then and have taken the crown back - Keys, you've been around long enough to know that this is the nature of the game. A week from now someone else may discover a way to make their system even faster and steal the crown once again???


Grant

 

[domaingenius]

On this subject of speed if you look at the times of many top names in the recent .eu rush you will see that Yellow Register Online AB got many and was
significantly quicker than anyone else. Quite interestingly the eu whois gives the times which is useful. Now who knows why Yellow were so much quicker.

DG

 

[Jay Daley]

This is all getting very boring!

Can I suggest that everyone complaining about people cheating/conspiracy theories etc. dedicate there time to something more constructive ie. working on your catching scripts - TAGNAMES currently get the most domains because their system works better than everyone elses. If you're not catching any domains then you need to be looking at your script and the surrounding factors to work out why, then change it!

Simple As.

A few months ago Chris Fox was cleaning up, tagnames have obviously made some changes since then and have taken the crown back - Keys, you've been around long enough to know that this is the nature of the game. A week from now someone else may discover a way to make their system even faster and steal the crown once again???


Grant

Grant - thanks for writing the first sensible post I've seen in quite some time on this issue.

 

[FC Domains]

Grantw & Rob

You were the first people in this topic to mention cheating and conspiracies.
The topic is about challanging the most successful catchers and I can't see anything wrong with that (unless they beat me).

Is this a tactic to get the topic locked?

 

[grantw]

Is this a tactic to get the topic locked?

Jesus, no it wasnt - this thread is related to all that moaning rubbish the other day so I posted it here, maybe it would have been better suited in the other thread. Admin - please feel free to move my post over to the other thread if you wish.

Grant

 

[FC Domains]

Grant - thanks for writing the first sensible post I've seen in quite some time on this issue.
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Jay Daley
Director of IT
Nominet UK

Blimey! Is it just me, or does anybody else feel uncomfortable with Nominet 'taking sides'?

So that's the first sensible post.

 

[mreeves]

Blimey! Is it just me, or does anybody else feel uncomfortable with Nominet 'taking sides'?

I don't read that as Nominet taking sides. I interpret it as Nominet saying that they have looked into the issue of 'cheating' and concluded that the tags that are successful at the drops are the ones with the most successful scripts - which is the main point of Grants post.

I have no doubt that Nominet has investigated all the top catchers at one point or another given the amount of childish moaning and rumours emerging from this forum.

So Jay, how about coming out and saying in completely unambiguous terms your view on whether any of the top catchers recently targeted by these rumours are cheating or not. Or at least if you are not prepared to do that then explain why.

For the record I do not believe the tags in question are cheating.

Regards
Martin

 

[aqls]

I think that we have just had the first conclusive post to show that the cheating aspect has been cleared as being above board.

I don't expect Nominet would feel obliged to answer every cheating accusation no matter how convincing the stats look, but to know that they've read the posts means to me that they have investigated it.

I don't think cheating accusations with supporting evidence should be blocked by this board as a) it is by and large a sensible board, and b) it gives Nominet the heads up that something may be amiss that they have maybe to investigate.

However, on a slightly different topic, the internal Nominet policy sounds a bit 'human'. - i.e. a senior person deciding what should be dropped that day at 23.50 at night. I am sure that Nominet is as honest as daylight, but I am almost equally sure that that senior person is under no written obligation not to forewarn anyone he chooses prior to his decision, a bit like insider trading but completely legal. (in some countries insider trading is legal anyway.)

Its a sort of ethical decision that we could not litigate against if it did happen, so is basically all about trusting in Nominets ethics and savvy. I do.

Also:
If there is a legal way for catches from multiple tags to be eventually shown under one tag - by some prior or post catch arrangement by the tags, that is being used, as intimated elsewhere on this forum, then under the same banner of fairness and ethics Nominet should in my opinion let it be public.

Apart from stopping all the bitching, it does afterall make the whole process more democratic and therefore lend itself to being a fairer, longer lasting system.

-aqls-

 

[keys]

I'm around until 10 Jan, then I may disappear or just lurk as most members do. Who cares?

3 Threads basically saying Tag Names and co cheat, out of interest to which Tag is the crown going?!

I have not accused anyone of cheating. You have drawn that conclusion and I am far from being the only person struggling to accept the alternative explanations offered.

 

[Jay Daley]

So Jay, how about coming out and saying in completely unambiguous terms your view on whether any of the top catchers recently targeted by these rumours are cheating or not. Or at least if you are not prepared to do that then explain why.

Every complaint that we have investigated for the last several months has shown no indication at all of cheating. There are some people who just have better systems than others. The top performer seems to change every few months and there are always accusation that they must be cheating.

BTW the only reason I have said the last several months is because I can't remember every case further back than that.