Estimating Values

[monaghan]

Anyone care to comment on the accuracy of domtastic.co.uk?

I've put in fairly conservative answers and it's valued trespassing.co.uk at £11.5K, I'd have thought that this is quite a high value for the name (of course I'd be happy to consider an offer of this much )

Is this a fair valuation?

Are there other on-line tools to help with valuation?

 

[rob]

I believe Julian has a 'match the valuation' offer and will buy any name at 20% under the valuation his tool provides as he is very confident

*ducks*

 

[monaghan]

I believe Julian has a 'match the valuation' offer and will buy any name at 20% under the valuation his tool provides as he is very confident

Must have missed that link

 

[julian]

firstly lets be clear - this tool was designed by a tool :mrgreen:

seriously though, I banged it in and it came out with £500/£750 which is imho much nearer.

You probably over valued it on some criteria :-D (as most do)

This is a screen shot of the crieteria that made it come out @ £500

 

[rob]

tresspassing.co.uk.uk ?

 

[julian]

We do not condone cyber squatting and the abusive registration of company/website names please try another name. :mrgreen:

tresspassing.co.uk.uk ?

 

[monaghan]

That's more like it, still can't find the 'match the valuation' offer Rob mentioned

Seriously though...

when do you class a domain name as memorable / unforgettable? If I heard it on the radio as suggested, I'd be able to remember it with no problem (even with my memory) which would class it as unforgettable, you've put it as quite memorable, I think I put it as memorable.

When does Intent move from OK to dictionary word? Trespassing is in my dictionary.

The tools is nice to play with (and I guess you harvest useful data from it ), but it would be good if there was some clear guidance as to which values were considered most appropiate.

 

[accelerator]

Anyone care to comment on the accuracy of domtastic.co.uk?

I've put in fairly conservative answers and it's valued trespassing.co.uk at £11.5K, I'd have thought that this is quite a high value for the name (of course I'd be happy to consider an offer of this much )

Is this a fair valuation?

Are there other on-line tools to help with valuation?

I would say the valuation is way over what you could realistically expect to sell the domain for. IMO "Trespassing" is not a valuable commercial market online so the domain isn't that valuable either.

No tool will do as good a job as you improving your own valuation skills, use these to improve them:
- domainprices.co.uk to get a feel for the market and what other domains went for.
- Google search traffic data and other volume data you can obtain.
- Earnings per click data for related keywords, from Google AdWords or similar services.

I don't want to take anything away from the effort put into these tools, but I think there are lots of factors that a machine couldn't easily account for anyway. The tools might be useful to give you a very vague ballpark, but that would be all IMO.

Rgds

 

[monaghan]

I'm aware the domain is not worth a huge amount, it was caught whilst testing a code tweak rather than as a targetted catch.

My question was more about tools for valuation and how to drive these for the average man in the street rather than exectation of an automated tool to give as good a valuation as a seasoned domainer.

 

[feKIX]

Well I just had unsurpassable.co.uk valued at £1750-£2000 potential value..is this a fair price?

 

[julian]

not really.. low £££ max really - but you never know.

Well I just had unsurpassable.co.uk valued at £1750-£2000 potential value..is this a fair price?

 

[namealot]

Can,t remeber where it came from but it may help someone ? used car salesman estate agent sort of bollo@*

There is a world of difference between what something is worth and what it costs. Things that cost little to produce can carry high price tags, and vice versa. Cost is subordinate to worth from a negotiating standpoint.

Worth analysis can shed more light on another party's needs than volumes of cost data. Accountants and cost specialists have avoided worth because it is difficult to analyze and defend. Their avoidance is unfortunate because the key to setting sensible negotiating targets lies more in what a thing is worth than what it costs.

What something is ‘worth’ depends upon how we approach this value question.

Recognize that in negotiating an exchange of goods or services, each participant may value items differently. A buyer, the buyer’s organization, the salesperson, and the salesperson’s organization do not see the product or price the same way. The salesperson may view the sale in terms of a free trip to Hawaii, while the buyer may perceive it as just another requisition to be disposed of. Neither may be deeply concerned with profit, cost, or use. The exchange of goods or services can be worth something different to every person involved.

Here’s just a few ways we can look at ‘worth.’

1. Worth may be related to a company’s ability to pass increased cost on to a third party. A product may actually be worth more to a buyer if they pay more for it. This happens when a percentage is added by the buyer and passed on to the customer.

2. Companies who automate can build a item faster. Yet they can charge the same price that less efficient producers do. Their costs are irrelevant with respect to price.

3. A component that does the same work as three other parts can be worth the price of the three parts it replaces.

4. Worth may be related to a buyer’s gain. If a seller knows that a buyer will make a windfall profit in reselling the product, the seller may raise their price so they can make a claim on some of the windfall.

5. A company may be content to sell a product at a price that merely covers direct costs, if in doing so they can keep their employees working during a slow period.

6. When a publicity agent takes on an important client at a low fee, they do so in the hope that other big-name clients will be attracted.

7. The worth of a service may be established by a standard or custom, or based simply on ability to pay.

8. Worth and special knowledge are related. The tax accountant with experience on a specific problem may charge on the basis of what they know rather than on a time basis.

9. Worth may be related to matters irrelevant to the economics of a specific transaction. In mergers and acquisitions, companies may be worth a lot if stock is exchanged, and much less if cash is used.

10. Worth can be related to what might happen is the deal falls through.

11. Worth may be related to cost. In a free, competitive market, it sometimes is.