Wanted: Domain Appraisal Any Value Here?

[domjkb]

Hello All,

Would appreciate your thoughts on the following:

CartridgeWorld.org.uk
PaintShop.org.uk

I have not really purchased .org.uk before, but keyword stats / estibot value seemed good?

Any ideas on pricing? or is development a better option?

Many Thanks

Dominic

 

[stellar73]

"Cartridge World" is a massive existing business so at a guess you may be infringing their trademarks if you use the name.....I'm not fully up to speed with trademark stuff so perhaps someone else can clarify this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartridge_World

"Paint Shop" has 880 exacts which is respectable but not massive....There is a software package called "Paint Shop Pro", it may be that this is what some of those searches relate to though presumably at least some of them will be for people looking for a an actual paint shop so it might be worth developing.

 

[Deltrus]

I agree with the bit about Cartridgeworld. Unless you intend to use it for retro game cartridges or something other than printer cartridges it wasn't worth registering because of the existing franchise.

As for paintshop that's more useful and my personal choice would be to promote or sell watercolour or acrylic artistic paint kits rather than interior paints as for the latter colour matching would be required and you can't do that with an average pc monitor so people would rather visit a store to buy.

 

[sdsinc]

I have not really purchased .org.uk before, but keyword stats / estibot value seemed good?

I think relying on automated appraisals is the absolute worst mistake a beginner can make. Also, I have never been a big fan of .org.uk domains, at least not for commercial use. Call me old fashioned if you will
They might be developed (wouldn't bother though) but I don't see any resale potential here.

 

[domjkb]

Thanks to all for your thoughts so far.

Can't find a TM for 'Cartridge World' but will take a better look. An existing business I am involved with offers a stationary line (And we do sell epson ink cartridges) So whether or not I can sell ink etc on this domain, i don't know?

So it seems that .org.uk is not a good extension to have much of?

Thanks for all your feedback / advice. No I don't take any automated value seriously sdsinc! If so I would value my portfolio of 200+ domains a more than a million! lol

 

[thadeas]

Thanks to all for your thoughts so far.

Can't find a TM for 'Cartridge World' but will take a better look. An existing business I am involved with offers a stationary line (And we do sell epson ink cartridges) So whether or not I can sell ink etc on this domain, i don't know?

So it seems that .org.uk is not a good extension to have much of?

Thanks for all your feedback / advice. No I don't take any automated value seriously sdsinc! If so I would value my portfolio of 200+ domains a more than a million! lol

There was a CartridgeWorld franchise local to me and I always chatted to the owner, after acouple of years he decided to not renew his franchise and just continue under a different name, he changed the name of the shop to PrinterWorld and within a very short space of time CartridgeWorld took him to court and he was told he couldn't use the words Ink, Printer, Cartridge and World together in the any name of the shop and he had to offer more than just printers and ink refills as people may still think he is affiliated with CW.

He now has the shop called SuppliesPlus and along with the usual printer stuff he also stocks kids bouncy balls and stationary just to stop CW from taking him back to court.

If you managed to make the .org.uk into even a semi-profitable website you can almost guarantee that CW will soon be knocking on your door.

 

[domjkb]

Quote'he changed the name of the shop to PrinterWorld and within a very short space of time CartridgeWorld took him to court and he was told he couldn't use the words Ink, Printer, Cartridge and World together in the any name of the shop and he had to offer more than just printers and ink refills' Quote.

Wow what a story! So you reckon CW owns business rights to using the words: ink, printer, cartridge, or world together in any combination? and nobody else can use these?

Does this include the plurals? like printerinks.co.uk? inkcartridges? Because there are literally 100's of uk sites like printerinks.co.uk, printerink.com for example that use these words together.

I find this fascinating!

Thanks for the info!

 

[woopwoop]

They probably have more ammunition with him because he was a previous franchisee and often there are special non compete clauses in franchisee agreements.

Although they may be able to stop him using those words in his company name that doesn't mean they have rights to those words or could stop non franchisees.

Also forget about using the trademark database to look this stuff up- even if you can't find a registered trademark a company that trades with an name has just as much protection (whether registered trademark or not).

Searching google for a name is probably more useful than searching the trademark db.

 

[thadeas]

Quote'he changed the name of the shop to PrinterWorld and within a very short space of time CartridgeWorld took him to court and he was told he couldn't use the words Ink, Printer, Cartridge and World together in the any name of the shop and he had to offer more than just printers and ink refills' Quote.

Wow what a story! So you reckon CW owns business rights to using the words: ink, printer, cartridge, or world together in any combination? and nobody else can use these?

Does this include the plurals? like printerinks.co.uk? inkcartridges? Because there are literally 100's of uk sites like printerinks.co.uk, printerink.com for example that use these words together.

I find this fascinating!

Thanks for the info!

No I very much doubt that CW owns all the business rights any of the stuff you mentioned, in his case it was basically to try and stop him profiting from the CW reputation being that he was a previous franchise and CW thought people would still think he was part of that company. There are loads of sites out there selling inks using different combinations of words which CW has no right to but you are thinking about trading from a domain name which is exactly the name of their brand and that will lead to problems.